Saturday, October 18, 2008

Obama Leading In Polls Because of Bad Economy!?

The same Facebook friend mentioned in my previous post put up a link to an article a while back that claimed that the poor economy and market crash were reasons why Obama was ahead in the presidential poles. Knowing the truth, I was appalled that a Democrat could benefit through lies, blaming the incumbent party for the debacle his own party created. The discussion went as follows:

October 14th

Me:
"How can Obama stand in public, or any Democrat anywhere, and have the audacity to blame the current economic mess on Republicans or Bush? The only blame they have is not having the stones to just shut the mess down and fix it.

It was a Democratic administration who required the "affordable housing" (loans for people who couldn't qualify - for good reasons) and forced Fred and Fannie to back and absorb the poisonous loans, who turned Fred and Fannie in GSE's, and those same players who oversaw the banking regulation, had live-in relationships with banking VP's, fought off Republican attempts to fix the issue when they saw it, claimed nothing was wrong, asked for $700B to fix the problem, and now turn around and blame Reps for political gain!

Worst part is that so many Americans are drinking their Kool-aid!"
Him:
"Deregulation thats why, developed by a Republican congress of the late 1990s. Your right wingers who lead the Republican Revolution of 1994 who didn't want health care for poor people. And remember, your boys held the majority until 2006. Theres no kool aid bro and Americans understand who to blame in the crisis, which has helped turn the tide of this election."
Me:
Jon, thanks for responding! I get excited about debating people, especially folks who respond in thought-out and respectful ways like you.

Now let's fight!

You failed to respond to any of the points I made. All of the points I made above are indisputable fact. They are the driving forces behind our market crash, and the loss of billions in retirement savings.

Based on those facts, then, NO, people don't know who to blame. The Banking Oversight Committee had a Dem majority, and the 2 or 3 times anybody tried to address the Fan/Fred looming debacle, the votes when straight down party lines. Your Dems opposed "regulations" on the top two mortgage banks, which they also helped make GSE's. It was their "deregulation" that caused this issue.

The majority liberal media has spun it as much as possible and failed to report the facts.

1. What deregulations do you say are to blame for this?

2. How does health care for poor people play into the market crash at all?

The Rep majority is culpable insofar as they failed to play hardball, get ticked, and do something about the problem they saw. I do hold them responsible for that. All it takes for bad men to win is for good men to do nothing. And they did not do enough, which I lay directly at their feet. I'll be harder on them then any Dem would.
That's all I got out of him. Does that mean I won!? When someone stops arguing, is it because they think they've won, lost interest, or can't come back with anything better? I don't know. But I do hate it when people failt to address specific issues.

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